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I was thinking if the likes of FlyDubai, Air Arabia, Jet2 or easyJet could possibly make the route work from the likes of LTN or STN ? We have seen the likes of Norwegian and Air Berlin, operate to DXB or AUH from their respected hubs, which is not much shorter than flying from the UK...
In the context travel thailand risky of O D traffic, which is all a LCC would be trying to attract, Dubai and the UAE is becoming a major destination travel thailand risky for UK travellers travel thailand risky and offers good value for money. Even though the likes of Emirates and Etihad occasionally have lead in fares for around £350 GBP, these fares are usually travel thailand risky around £450-500 in the UAE's peak season (Nov-Mar). The likes of easyJet could easily compete with these fares, probably coming in at about £300.
It has been demonstrated that passengers are willing to use LCC on longer routes, for example easyJet operate travel thailand risky 14 flights a week from London ( LGW and LTN ) to Sharm El Sheikh, with a flight time of 5.5-6hrs and Dubai is only around an extra hours flying time...
travel thailand risky Would it be more of a case the likes of Emirates and Etihad would do everything in their powers to crush any low cost competition, on a market they heavily dominate, or would they simply tolerate this and acknowledge low cost airlines are going for a small market they have little interest in?
I would assume the 8 flights on 4 airlines flying LHR - DXB is adequate to cover the market. Also despite being within the range charts, LHR - DXB is longer than any narrowbody other than the 757 typically operates.
It would be interesting to see an LCC fly UAE-UK. Flydubai will take delivery of tens of 738s over the next few years but I don't think they'll be venturing beyond Eastern/Central Europe. However I do think that there is enough traffic UK-Dubai to fill a few high-density 767s or A330s, especially during the winter season. There are several UK-based operators, such as Monarch, who could operate such routes.
I think Emirates et al are one of the few carriers that give the LCC's a run for their money. Any such route would likely be point to point and would therefore predominantly rely on ex-pats and DXB bound tourists. Nothing wrong with that of course travel thailand risky but EK already caters very well for this particular market.
The route is actually working from LTN to OTP via Wizzair OTP to DBX via FlyDubai. Not sure about how cheap these two segments travel thailand risky can be booked for, I would guess anywhere between 300-400 Euros. Is that too steep when compared with legacy carriers ?
Quoting travel thailand risky connector4you ( Reply 10 ): The route is actually working from LTN to OTP via Wizzair OTP to DBX via FlyDubai. Not sure about how cheap these two segments can be booked for, I would guess anywhere between 300-400 travel thailand risky Euro
Im not sure it would be something I would want to do or be brave enough. Trying to connect with different LCC, is taking a risk, in case one of the airlines changed their schedule or cancelled a flight. You run the risk of being left high and dry!
There is however quite a few connections, the most logical and competitive seems to be LTN - SAW - DXB / SHJ , with easyJet travel thailand risky and flyDubai or Air Arabia... I just looked travel thailand risky at December and fares with easyJet, LTN to SAW are around £52 GBP return at present and FlyDubai or Air Arabia are around 250 EUR return SAW - DXB / SHJ .
So thats around £260 GBP in total! I did these for dates on the 13/12 to the 17/12, but as this is still some time in-advance, most of the fares around these dates are also this price. travel thailand risky The cheapest travel thailand risky flight on Opodo.com LHR - DXB was £376 return with Oman Air (via Muscat) and the cheapest direct was Royal Brunai at £447.
DXB is a bit far for a 737 or A320. The Arab destination that easyJet should consider is Beirut - beautiful destination with lots of tourism, plus lots of Lebanese in London who visit "home" often, incumbent airlines ( MEA , BA ) quite expensive etc. Not only is it visa free for EU citizens to visit, but Lebanon also has a totally "Open Skies" policy - any airline can fly to BEY from anywhere else, so not only can easyJet (or any other UK carrier) fly there without restriction, they can fly onwards to anywhere else with full traffic rights. (Ah, so maybe easyJet will fly to Dubai one day after all.)
Quoting gilesdavies ( Reply 11 ): I just looked at December and fares with easyJet, LTN to SAW are around £52 GBP return at present and FlyDubai travel thailand risky or Air Arabia travel thailand risky are around 250 EUR return SAW - DXB / SHJ . So thats around £260 GBP in total! I
Quoting gilesdavies ( Reply 11 ): There is however some major BUTS if you go the Low Cost Option, you have a 12hr stopover at SAW on way out and a 13hr overnight stopover on the way home! Also baggage fees have to be added on!
Doesn't have open skies yet, and I genuinely don't imagine EZY starting before then. There was an in-depth thread about this very issue a few months ago, with Joost providing a cut-and-paste of the situation.
2. The LCCs are very very stingy when it comes to providing layovers. So wherever possible they try to do a turnaround with minumum ground time of 40 minutes to make sure the duty time does not exceed 12.15 hrs. Hence now we end up doing DXB / SHJ to DME / KBP / NBO / DAC all as turnarounds!!!
All the above sectors have block times of about 5 hours each way. Plus most of the time we are limited by MTOW. hence i am pretty travel thailand risky sure a flight from UAE-UK will for sure be payload restricted if we need to take MAX Fuel load. Any tech stop for fuel will negate all the cost savings...and does not make sense.
I think it's a combination travel thailand risky of three things. The distance would make people think carefully about booking an LCC flight over EK , BA , VS et al and weight restrictions could mean a lot of 737 or A320 flights making diversions, not a good way to keep passengers. Secondly, travel thailand risky EK is extremely competitive and uses it's assets more like an LCC which means they can offer competitive fares and a much nicer product and would almost certainly be able to keep UK LCCs off the route. Finally the amount of connecting traffic makes LCC style flying less viable as they don't offer connections
That's usually the case since you have a better product (nonstop service) to your hub and most people are willing to pay more for a nonstop. Beyond DXB EK is competing with many other carriers, some of which offer nonstop travel thailand risky service, so they don't have the same pricing power as to DXB .
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